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Old 06-09-2007, 06:05 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by cojaro
I'd like to know more about dampers and springs (not separately; how they work together and the effect of different spring rates and different damper rates)

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"All springs "Bounce" its in their nature. Dampers Control the springs Occilations (bouncing). So if your car is bouncing, its not the springs fault its the dampers fault. To stop them from making the ride bouncy you need the proper damper (shock)."

That is why after a while with lowering springs your car gets bouncy if your on stock shocks. Much unlike common mis-belief Shocks don't just blow, it is a slow degreagation over time. That is why almost always older cars bounce down the highway if they haven't had their shocks replaced. It can also give you that FLOATY feeling on the highway over bumps, dips, and irregularities in the road.

"There's alot more to a damper then just the materials.... theres differences in valving, High shaft speed valving, Mid shaft speed valving, Low shaft speed Valving... Each one influencing different aspects of the damper. Low shaft speed valving deals mostly with how quickly weight gets transfered around the chassis, thus influencing the cars handling balance. High shaft speed valving deals more with how the damper deals with impats, bumps and such, so it deals more with the dampers Ride characteristics. Mid shaft speed valving deals with a bit of both. Tie that in to both Bump and Rebound differences.... and that gives you at least 6 different "tuneable" parts on a damper that influence handling and ridequality.

So you can see that the valving a damper has, not just the materials its made of, are very important to the cars ride and handling balance. (this is primairly why I don't trust those "cheep" coilovers... too little info dealing with the dampers)" And what is out there isn't that promising I have seen shock dyno's from both and Koni's appear to be the most performance oriented.Tein's or any of the "pre-built" coilovers for example DOn't flame me for not likeing them sorry guys.
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