problem with ortivt6

newsiguy · 05-12-2008, 11:27 PM

ortivt6 was recently in the need of some help on the forum so i took it upon myself to help him and give him directions for his suspension setup.

After this happened he had posted in the for sale section that he had skunk 2 camber arms for sale so i immediately pmed him and sent payment within 30 minutes of his post i was siked about it. he informed me he wasn't going to send out the arms till he received payment into his account (reasonable and i agreed) we sent pms back and fourth with updates and such.

This morning i pmed him and asked him if payment cleared he responded with oh no it should tonight you are on the west coast i am on the east coast.Not a big deal so i wait patiently then all of a sudden he sends me a message saying i canceled payment today?? what the hell??? if i was going to cancel a payment why would i wait TILL THE DAY IT CLEARS??? that doesn't make sense then i see in the FL forum some one local to him buys them from him for more money then he orginally offered. He then claims that i cancled payment instead of contacting me he MAGICALLY has payment from someone else and ALREADY has them shipped to him! THEN HE HAS THE AUDACITY to leave ME negative feedback saying that i canceled payment and was impatient. When this morning and the whole time i have agreed for him to not send the arms out until payment clears? Seriously i don't feel i should have negative feedback on my name what so ever if i was going to cancel a payment i wouldn't do it after 3 business days plus a weekend of waiting......

i realize i can not get the arms from him because he already sold them to someone who i believe offered him more money so he no longer wanted to do a sale with me (since he didn't even pm me to ask me what the deal was and RESOLVE the situation) however i feel i should not have negative feedback especially if it was just a paypal ERROR and he could have just asked me

friedk · 05-12-2008, 11:36 PM

Good luck. Hope this gets cleared up.

***mz_rigel*** · 05-12-2008, 11:39 PM

sorry to hear about the sucky ordeal you had to go through... some people just suck..

**dentrecords** · 05-12-2008, 11:43 PM

I removed the negative itrader feedback for you.

I'm sorry but that's about all that I can do for you, as he's already sold them to someone else.

friedk · 05-12-2008, 11:46 PM

Waiting on Ortivt6 to come in and say his side of the story..

***ImTheVoiceOfGod*** · 05-12-2008, 11:47 PM

Man, that is seriously F'ed up.

newsiguy · 05-12-2008, 11:56 PM

i honestly hope for his sake that this is just a big misunderstanding but i only know my side of the story and how it looks TO ME. I really hope that he just overreacted and i would gladly retract my negative feedback to him as well offer an apology for this post but i just wanted to let ppl know i wasn't a bad buyer or seller here. I just bought a fujita from someone here and got great feedback as well as bought from two vendors here. I really just hope it was a misunderstanding he seemed like a real straight forward guy and i see that he had a very positive feedback rating prior to my one bad ding.
And like i said i would be more than happy to remove my feedback (or ask an admin) if there is explanation

**webby** · 05-13-2008, 12:08 AM

it's happened in the past, and I'm sure it won't be the last time. I'm sorry - and thanks to dent for removing. No reason for your acct to be in the neg

friedk · 05-13-2008, 12:11 AM

Hm....

***Zeuceone*** · 05-13-2008, 12:12 AM

Did you pay with paypal? I tought paypal cleared the same day. To me it sounds like he got a better offer aswell as yours and was waiting for the other person to pay. You were his rebound guy if the local guy didnt get them.

**webby** · 05-13-2008, 12:17 AM

not twice from this seller - just it's happened on the site in the past

newsiguy · 05-13-2008, 12:19 AM

yea for some reason when i went to send him the money it didn't go through as an instant transfer and he said it was good because he still needed to take them off his car and he wouldn't get around to it till this weekend that just passed so it was perfect timing (or so i thought) and yes i did use paypal

**webby** · 05-13-2008, 12:34 AM

does the money show not clearing on your end in paypal? I'm guessing you sent an echeck? That does take 3-4 days to transfer.

Is the money still showing in your paypal acct?

newsiguy · 05-13-2008, 12:37 AM

it was an echeck i just took a look so i'm not going to be out of any money (luckily) but it will just take a couple days to get back into my account not a big deal (money wise)

ortivt6 · 05-13-2008, 10:08 AM

well has anyone ever hear theres two sides to every story...

well I dont have a story I actually have proof...

Dear Anthony Ortiz,

The eCheck payment sent by Scott Miller (email address removed by firmhonda) did not clear through the PayPal system. You have not received funds for this payment in your PayPal balance.

You may want to contact Scott Miller
regarding this payment.

-----------------------------------
Payment Details:
-----------------------------------

Amount: $165.00 USD
Sender: Scott Miller
Sender's Email: email address removed by firmhonda
Transaction ID: 4J458898M26622717

Sincerely,
PayPal

ortivt6 · 05-13-2008, 10:11 AM

want to see more proof... ok

Transaction Details

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

eCheck Received (Unique Transaction ID #4J458898M26622717)

Original Transaction

Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net
May 7, 2008 Payment From Scott Miller Canceled ... $165.00 USD $0.00 USD $165.00 USD

Related Transaction
Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net
May 12, 2008 eCheck Received Canceled Details $165.00 USD $0.00 USD $165.00 USD

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Transfer to:
Scott Miller
Buyer Email:
email address removed by firmhonda
Payment Sent to:

email address removed by firmhonda

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Total Amount:
$165.00 USD

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Date:
May 7, 2008
Time:
08:54:09 PDT
Status:
Canceled

ortivt6 · 05-13-2008, 10:23 AM

Is that enough proof... Or do u guys want my info and pay pal number so u can hear straigh from pay pal...

I have never mess up a sale from 8thcivic.com... all my buyers have always been 100% satisfied...

If u see when I re-sell the skunk2 rear camber arms I even posted there that my previous buyer had cancelled his payment...

here is the link:
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/suspe...mber-arms.html

GTEC · 05-13-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ortivt6

well has anyone ever hear theres two sides to every story...

well I dont have a story I actually have proof...

Dear Anthony Ortiz,

The eCheck payment sent by Scott Miller (email address removed by firmhonda) did not clear through the PayPal system. You have not received funds for this payment in your PayPal balance.

You may want to contact Scott Miller
regarding this payment.

-----------------------------------
Payment Details:
-----------------------------------

Amount: $165.00 USD
Sender: Scott Miller
Sender's Email: email address removed by firmhonda
Transaction ID: 4J458898M26622717

Sincerely,
PayPal

Should have contacted him instead of just shooting him a negative feedback because of an error he had no control over. I'm sure he was just as suprised as you were to see that it didn't clear. PayPal cancelled it, not him. Communication, Anthony. Just my .02

ortivt6 · 05-13-2008, 10:30 AM

well the money didnt cleared cuz he didnt have the money... but see it didnt say not cleared... it said CANCELLED!!!!

**firmhonda** · 05-13-2008, 10:31 AM

I went ahead and removed all the personal info (email addys).

05-12-2008, 11:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
newsiguy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 191 iTrader: 1 / 100%	problem with ortivt6 ortivt6 was recently in the need of some help on the forum so i took it upon myself to help him and give him directions for his suspension setup. After this happened he had posted in the for sale section that he had skunk 2 camber arms for sale so i immediately pmed him and sent payment within 30 minutes of his post i was siked about it. he informed me he wasn't going to send out the arms till he received payment into his account (reasonable and i agreed) we sent pms back and fourth with updates and such. This morning i pmed him and asked him if payment cleared he responded with oh no it should tonight you are on the west coast i am on the east coast.Not a big deal so i wait patiently then all of a sudden he sends me a message saying i canceled payment today?? what the hell??? if i was going to cancel a payment why would i wait TILL THE DAY IT CLEARS??? that doesn't make sense then i see in the FL forum some one local to him buys them from him for more money then he orginally offered. He then claims that i cancled payment instead of contacting me he MAGICALLY has payment from someone else and ALREADY has them shipped to him! THEN HE HAS THE AUDACITY to leave ME negative feedback saying that i canceled payment and was impatient. When this morning and the whole time i have agreed for him to not send the arms out until payment clears? Seriously i don't feel i should have negative feedback on my name what so ever if i was going to cancel a payment i wouldn't do it after 3 business days plus a weekend of waiting...... i realize i can not get the arms from him because he already sold them to someone who i believe offered him more money so he no longer wanted to do a sale with me (since he didn't even pm me to ask me what the deal was and RESOLVE the situation) however i feel i should not have negative feedback especially if it was just a paypal ERROR and he could have just asked me

05-12-2008, 11:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
*ImTheVoiceOfGod* BEWARE THE REP!!!! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Camp Buehring Age: 26 Posts: 20,219 Post-Whore iTrader: 6 / 100%	Man, that is seriously F'ed up. __________________ I make Pixel Cars for VIP members 8thcivic.com FAQ's 8thcivic.com Search Function

05-13-2008, 12:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
friedk Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,405 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Hm.... Last edited by friedk; 05-13-2008 at 12:19 AM.

05-13-2008, 12:12 AM	#10 (permalink)
*Zeuceone* Kill Your Self Krew Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Killa Cali. Posts: 44,690 iTrader: 19 / 100%	Did you pay with paypal? I tought paypal cleared the same day. To me it sounds like he got a better offer aswell as yours and was waiting for the other person to pay. You were his rebound guy if the local guy didnt get them. Last edited by Zeuceone; 05-13-2008 at 12:16 AM.

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05-12-2008, 11:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
friedk Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,405 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Good luck. Hope this gets cleared up.

05-12-2008, 11:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
*mz_rigel* is pregnant!! =) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Yay Area of Killa Cali Age: 22 Posts: 1,741 ☆Rigel [rye-jel] =) iTrader: 0 / 0%	sorry to hear about the sucky ordeal you had to go through... some people just suck..

05-12-2008, 11:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
friedk Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,405 iTrader: 2 / 100%	Waiting on Ortivt6 to come in and say his side of the story..

05-12-2008, 11:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
newsiguy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 191 iTrader: 1 / 100%	i honestly hope for his sake that this is just a big misunderstanding but i only know my side of the story and how it looks TO ME. I really hope that he just overreacted and i would gladly retract my negative feedback to him as well offer an apology for this post but i just wanted to let ppl know i wasn't a bad buyer or seller here. I just bought a fujita from someone here and got great feedback as well as bought from two vendors here. I really just hope it was a misunderstanding he seemed like a real straight forward guy and i see that he had a very positive feedback rating prior to my one bad ding. And like i said i would be more than happy to remove my feedback (or ask an admin) if there is explanation

05-13-2008, 12:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
webby Acorns! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Storage Room B Posts: 12,618 iTrader: 11 / 100%	it's happened in the past, and I'm sure it won't be the last time. I'm sorry - and thanks to dent for removing. No reason for your acct to be in the neg

05-13-2008, 12:17 AM	#11 (permalink)
webby Acorns! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Storage Room B Posts: 12,618 iTrader: 11 / 100%	not twice from this seller - just it's happened on the site in the past

05-13-2008, 12:19 AM	#12 (permalink)
newsiguy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 191 iTrader: 1 / 100%	yea for some reason when i went to send him the money it didn't go through as an instant transfer and he said it was good because he still needed to take them off his car and he wouldn't get around to it till this weekend that just passed so it was perfect timing (or so i thought) and yes i did use paypal

05-13-2008, 12:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
webby Acorns! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Storage Room B Posts: 12,618 iTrader: 11 / 100%	does the money show not clearing on your end in paypal? I'm guessing you sent an echeck? That does take 3-4 days to transfer. Is the money still showing in your paypal acct?

05-13-2008, 12:37 AM	#14 (permalink)
newsiguy Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 191 iTrader: 1 / 100%	it was an echeck i just took a look so i'm not going to be out of any money (luckily) but it will just take a couple days to get back into my account not a big deal (money wise)

05-13-2008, 10:08 AM	#15 (permalink)
ortivt6 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: FL Age: 27 Posts: 3,435 Ant iTrader: 15 / 100%	well has anyone ever hear theres two sides to every story... well I dont have a story I actually have proof... Dear Anthony Ortiz, The eCheck payment sent by Scott Miller (email address removed by firmhonda) did not clear through the PayPal system. You have not received funds for this payment in your PayPal balance. You may want to contact Scott Miller regarding this payment. ----------------------------------- Payment Details: ----------------------------------- Amount: $165.00 USD Sender: Scott Miller Sender's Email: email address removed by firmhonda Transaction ID: 4J458898M26622717 Sincerely, PayPal

05-13-2008, 10:11 AM	#16 (permalink)
ortivt6 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: FL Age: 27 Posts: 3,435 Ant iTrader: 15 / 100%	want to see more proof... ok Transaction Details -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- eCheck Received (Unique Transaction ID #4J458898M26622717) Original Transaction Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net May 7, 2008 Payment From Scott Miller Canceled ... $165.00 USD $0.00 USD $165.00 USD Related Transaction Date Type Status Details Gross Fee Net May 12, 2008 eCheck Received Canceled Details $165.00 USD $0.00 USD $165.00 USD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Transfer to: Scott Miller Buyer Email: email address removed by firmhonda Payment Sent to: email address removed by firmhonda -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Total Amount: $165.00 USD -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: May 7, 2008 Time: 08:54:09 PDT Status: Canceled

05-13-2008, 10:23 AM	#17 (permalink)
ortivt6 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: FL Age: 27 Posts: 3,435 Ant iTrader: 15 / 100%	Is that enough proof... Or do u guys want my info and pay pal number so u can hear straigh from pay pal... I have never mess up a sale from 8thcivic.com... all my buyers have always been 100% satisfied... If u see when I re-sell the skunk2 rear camber arms I even posted there that my previous buyer had cancelled his payment... here is the link: http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/suspe...mber-arms.html

05-13-2008, 10:30 AM	#19 (permalink)
ortivt6 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: FL Age: 27 Posts: 3,435 Ant iTrader: 15 / 100%	well the money didnt cleared cuz he didnt have the money... but see it didnt say not cleared... it said CANCELLED!!!!