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Which mod did this?

Stickied this thread...

Something you should consider before going AJP: A true story about liars
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Old 02-27-2008, 11:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Didn't you pm webby about this already?

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Old 02-27-2008, 11:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah, i pm'd him. he said he didn't know who did it.

datbacker- since you only know what you read, i'd stay out of this.
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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You said who stuck a hate thread about alljap in your pm without a link. I said I haven't seen the thread yet, so I don't know what one you're referring to. I asked if it was jeshua's thread about his turbo build, and you never replied.

I see that thread is stuck, and as you can see toward the end of the thread, users asked if it could just be stuck and closed.
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Which mod did this? Pt. 2

So since my last one was locked and I wasn't done talking about it. I figured I'd start another one. Can you leave this open for discussion? Geez.

So my pm to you stated that someone stickied the ajp hate thread and I was wondering who did it. You stated that you didn't know that it was stickied and you'd look into it. The last user commented about it being locked and stickied. There are plenty of reasons that it should be simply locked and not stickied. You stickied the thread because ONE member, who knows nothing about the topic aside from what they might have read, ask for it to be locked and stickied. That's retarded. How about you just lock it and let it die since members (note how this one is plural) have been requesting that for a long time.

There's a difference between mediating and dictating. Some seem to have confused the two.
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merged your threads since I upset you from the 1st closure. I'll let everyone discuss it - since this is what you're requesting. I wouldn't want to close something you didn't want me to. Would you like Jeshua's thread reopened for discussion as well?
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Sure. Open it back up. Better than locking and stickying it at the top of the page. Now you're playing comedian huh? Real cool webby.

Your hatred for AJP is obvious. Why do you insist on carrying it around like t.p. stuck to your shoe? What's really ****** up is that you and many others aren't even willing to listen to the other side of the story. And why would they or anyone come to YOU? If it bothers you that damn much, why don't you go to THEM? Give 'em a call. But no, you'd rather not play the role of skeptic.

I don't see you anyone with a shred of skepticism towards Redshift...and they've been around here for a while and have produced nothing. Nothing but long ass threads. What if I told you that their s/c already blew a motor in a Civic Si? Like the H.A.R.T. race car. Oh, that's Honda of America Racing Team. And that after what...13 minutes after the install? Oh, God forbid we speak anything but good about them. They've only been sitting on this s/c for like 2 years...Anyways- back to the topic at hand....
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:03 AM   #9 (permalink)
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One part that I find hilarious is that some people think that I'm getting paid by them or some dumb crap like that. I couldn't tell you the last time I spoke with the shop or one of the employees. It's been quite some time...I don't get anything for it, other that the satisfaction of disputing people's close-minded opinions.
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OP do you work for AJP or something? why are you so interested in all this, if there is hate towards AJP on this forums is because they did it to themselves.


I undesrstand things have probably change, but just remember that is is really hard to earn respect(or should i say trust) but its so easy to lose it. and once lost its so hard to earn it back.
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:16 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Civic Pride- read the post I made just before yours.

The place over inflated small issues they had with the shop, which naturally snowballed into the giant hate wagon that trolls around now. They didn't show up to defend themselves, and they probably knew that it was pointless. The gaggle of bastards that runs around here picking apart anything and everything, is tough to fend off. They didn't jump on any other companies nuts...*cough cough*....Redshift....*cough cough* or talk trash about them.
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I have never mention this on this site, because i was told not to from the owner, there was a guy that lives 24 minutes away from me, he was one of the first to oder the AJP kit for his brand new Si, i meet the guy here since he posted his car for sale on the forsale thread, i went to his house and talk to the guy, AJP send him the turbo kit, but some of the parts did not fit right, the car will stall on him everytime he stop, it had something to do with the intake manifold, he call ajp and they send him another piece and the same thing happen, the piece did not fit right, thats why he was trying to sell the car and forget about the civic, plus his wife gave him a brand new GTO for valentines day. he did mention the car will haul ass while the kit was working properly, like on the highway.

So am sure AJP will take care of you if you live right there and can go to there shop if you have any problems, but for people that don't live in florida its not easy to deal with them if you have problems with their kit.

and this is just one guy that no one here knew about, and that had problems with them, and who knows how many more, that are not member here, your experiences with them might be different for the fact that you are local.

But to each their own, i don't have nothing against ajp, i think they have some great kits out for the civics, but they need to have a better customer service for people outside of florida.

BTW all this is from about 1 year ago. not this past valentines day.

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There are also a lot of people that have bought and installed the kits with success, that are not members of this site. Self installs, shop installs, etc. They've come along way with their customer service. I don't know when the last time I heard of a problem or a complaint regarding it.

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Old 02-28-2008, 08:22 AM   #14 (permalink)
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So by coming a long way with their customer service - does that mean the are no longer creating false positive testimonies and throwing them out on the web to dupe potential customers into thinking that was a real satisfied customer that just raved about them? Outright lying to your customer base is one thing, but being that underhanded and devious about things is another.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:51 AM   #15 (permalink)
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....if it was a repeat performance by AJP...the sticky needs to be there.....if not... well i guess not.


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Sure. Open it back up. Better than locking and stickying it at the top of the page. Now you're playing comedian huh? Real cool webby.

Your hatred for AJP is obvious. Why do you insist on carrying it around like t.p. stuck to your shoe? What's really ****** up is that you and many others aren't even willing to listen to the other side of the story. And why would they or anyone come to YOU? If it bothers you that damn much, why don't you go to THEM? Give 'em a call. But no, you'd rather not play the role of skeptic.

I don't see you anyone with a shred of skepticism towards Redshift...and they've been around here for a while and have produced nothing. Nothing but long ass threads. What if I told you that their s/c already blew a motor in a Civic Si? Like the H.A.R.T. race car. Oh, that's Honda of America Racing Team. And that after what...13 minutes after the install? Oh, God forbid we speak anything but good about them. They've only been sitting on this s/c for like 2 years...Anyways- back to the topic at hand....
Before you go spouting off at the mouth further, please do a little digging yourself. Do you know how many calls/pm's/emails webby has made to AJP/ben10 to try and get issues resolved with members who had issues with their product? Countless. COUNTLESS!! Most, if not all went unanswered. Ben10 would see the threads members would make asking for help. Guess what? No response from him. This went on for months.

So, if I could, I would put fireworks around that sticky to warn members about their extremely poor service.

What they have done is inexcusable.
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damn!!! it went that far ?....thats poor from AJP
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Civic Pride- read the post I made just before yours.

The place over inflated small issues they had with the shop, which naturally snowballed into the giant hate wagon that trolls around now. They didn't show up to defend themselves, and they probably knew that it was pointless. The gaggle of bastards that runs around here picking apart anything and everything, is tough to fend off. They didn't jump on any other companies nuts...*cough cough*....Redshift....*cough cough* or talk trash about them.
Ok, well do they have good customer service now? Do they have adequate recourses to deal with all that again? What have they done differently since the jeshua thread?
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yeah, i pm'd him. he said he didn't know who did it.

datbacker- since you only know what you read, i'd stay out of this.



Wow... your tough as hell online.

I understand why you made this thread, but I also understand why someone stickied the other thread. Everyone is entitled to their opinion man. Ya know?
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