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Old 02-28-2008, 09:09 PM   #101 (permalink)
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There is no need to go bashing on Webby or any of the Admin or Mods. They do a lot more than you know behind the scene. This is their site and they try to take care of all the members and their best interest.

You are entitled to your opinion and can post a thread if you want, and if it was closed just ask one of them for help. And as long as your point is good I am sure they would help you out.

But if you are going to bash them, do us all a favor and find another Forum. I for one stand behind the Administrators and Moderators of this site.
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Old 02-28-2008, 09:15 PM   #102 (permalink)
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the mods and admin on this site are the only people i know that will help you out if you get screwed by one of their vendors
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:10 PM   #103 (permalink)
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I never read the original post. Glad you asked who stickied it or I never would have know JeSHUa got screwed over by AJP. Lots of reading there with insightful pro/cons to diff turbo setups and experiences. I think if a company like AJP wants to develope a product they should use their own car and not a customers. That said they should compensate JeSHUa immediately. They, AJP should have been upfront with JeSHUa and just said, "Hey sorry for all the crap, this is on us. We commend you on your patience. Thanks for letting us develop the best kit on the market." Could have been simple.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:18 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Comments like this are not cool. Please be respectful of one another. I understand there is a heated argument going on here, but childish name-calling shouldn't be thrown in. It doesn't prove any point.
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Old 02-28-2008, 10:23 PM   #105 (permalink)
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good god. is this thread still going.

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well well well. havn't seen you in a while.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:14 PM   #108 (permalink)
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Alright, I'll tell ya what. As much as I would love to sit here all night long and argue my points and go back and forth, its obviously pointless.

Like Webby told me, we all have issues with someone or another and I'm sure we all know dirt on this person or that.

Most everything that I have stated has been debated and I have valid arguements for most all of it, but it won't get me or anyone else anywhere. It's apparently all hear-say anyways. AJP, Redshift, Blue, Toni, etc. I won't bother proving it all. Those that know the truth, will keep it quiet as well, I'm sure.

This thread was originally started to find out why it was stickied. I refrain from expressing my opinions as to why it was and who did it. There is too much close-mindedness and stubborness amongst all of us I guess.

To Redshift- You are poop. That's my opinion and I'll try to keep from letting you know that again.

Mods- it's obvious that this will go the same place the rest of the AJP related threads go. Feel free to lock it up. Or leave it open. Doesn't really matter to me. I've got my experiences and opinions, they differ from everyone elses and I'll see about keeping them to myself for a little while.

It's been fun.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:19 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Nice way to man up and admit you were wrong and acused us of somthing that didn't happened...
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No, I don't feel that i am wrong. But there is no way to prove it all over the forums. Like I said, continuing this arguement is pointless. I'll keep my problems with you guys to myself until you fail.
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No, I don't feel that i am wrong. But there is no way to prove it all over the forums. Like I said, continuing this arguement is pointless. I'll keep my problems with you guys to myself until you fail. Then I'll talk about them again.
even tho i may agree with most of what you have said or atleast it could make sense this arguing is futile. best bet is to sit back and wait and see how this plays out.
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FYI - redshift has undergone A LOT of scrutiny behind the scenes and rightfully so as deemed by the people behind the scenes. So when someone say that redshift is basically getting a free pass, that's very far from the truth!!! to say the least.

where ajp is concerned, management to former employees, 1 word comes to mind, SHADY!

FYI - what's left on the board for others to see is just a piece of what has happened.

some questions ...
1. since toni is gone now, who's building the kits?
2. if someone else is building a kit that a former employee designed/ built how can they ensure a uniform product if the designer himself couldn't ensure it using his own jigs?

i have lots of other statements i could make and other questions that i could ask but this thread is pointless. They are no longer here. They have their own forum on which they can redeem themselves. In the civic world it's easy to redeem/prove urself as word gets around quick. They have the forum, they have the parts ect., if they do the work then they will get recognition. Till then i stand 100% behind the decisions of the staff @ 8thcivic.com.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:25 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Yup. I'll play the quiet game for once and just let time do the talking. Sorry to get you guys all spun up. I'm one of those guys that you either mesh with, or you don't. Doesn't matter either way to me, but I guess I can get a little carried away at times.

I also seem to have much thicker skin than most people. So this stuff doesn't keep me from sleeping. Just more arguing about something that won't be resolved in this thread or any other.
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FYI - redshift has undergone A LOT of scrutiny behind the scenes and rightfully so as deemed by the people behind the scenes. So when someone say that redshift is basically getting a free pass, that's very far from the truth!!! to say the least.

where ajp is concerned, management to former employees, 1 word comes to mind, SHADY!

FYI - what's left on the board for others to see is just a piece of what has happened.

some questions ...
1. since toni is gone now, who's building the kits?
2. if someone else is building a kit that a former employee designed/ built how can they ensure a uniform product if the designer himself couldn't ensure it using his own jigs?

i have lots of other statements i could make and other questions that i could ask but this thread is pointless. They are no longer here. They have their own forum on which they can redeem themselves. In the civic world it's easy to redeem/prove urself as word gets around quick. They have the forum, they have the parts ect., if they do the work then they will get recognition. Till then i stand 100% behind the decisions of the staff @ 8thcivic.com.
Well put. I'll go back to watching for a while.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:28 PM   #115 (permalink)
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even tho i may agree with most of what you have said or atleast it could make sense this arguing is futile. best bet is to sit back and wait and see how this plays out.
Same thing I was thinking, just didn't feel like keeping the thread going. Guess it's gonna continue anyways though.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:42 PM   #116 (permalink)
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I am not exactly taking sides just yet with Redshift but feel like they will be better prepared with customer service than AJP is. I was at the first meet when the company car first came out with AJP and Marvie (sickyute) went for a test drive in it and as soon as I met them I could tell they really didn't give a shit about what people think about them which is why i never bought the kit from them. They actually still owe me a bunch of money but haven't even gone there to try to get it cause i don't feel like hearing their BS excuses.
i can vouch for this one... i was there that day as well
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This thread was originally started to find out why it was stickied. I refrain from expressing my opinions as to why it was and who did it. There is too much close-mindedness and stubborness amongst all of us I guess.

To Redshift- You are poop. That's my opinion and I'll try to keep from letting you know that again.

Mods- it's obvious that this will go the same place the rest of the AJP related threads go. Feel free to lock it up. Or leave it open. Doesn't really matter to me. I've got my experiences and opinions, they differ from everyone elses and I'll see about keeping them to myself for a little while.

It's been fun.
i stickied the thread... the reason was b/c someone made a point that it was getting dragged on and on... ppl kept bringing it up, which is true... so i stuck it and closed it so ppl who want to read it can...

like sum1 else stated lots of good points in that thread both going for and against AJP... it's up to whoever wants to read it to decide what to do next...


with that said AJP has the best kit out . i would buy their kit if i were in the market for boost... i can say that with confidence b/c i live 15-20mins from their shop and can go there if i have any problems/w.e... they also can't escape a customer that can just walk into their shop anytime they feel like getting some answers...

most ppl don't have that luxury which is where customer service comes into play and for that they SUCK... i won't get into details on that here b/c it's been discussed in the other thread... them as ppl (most of them) seem kinda to me... another reason to stay away... i wanted them to boost my H22/98EK sent multiple emails and was never responded to... i left it alone b/c i blew the motor and sold the car... ppl here are upset b/c of them not standing by what they say... great kit just garbage ppl...

now if i was to boost my car i'd take it to the guy that doesn't work for AJP anymore that knows what he's doing...
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Understood.
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Understood.
so that's all you have to say after making all those allegations toward the other users? You still believe they were in the wrong after a number of them responded in this thread?
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Yup. Like I said...this is pointless. I started it and wish I didn't. All that arguing and nothing is getting accomplished. Nothing will either.
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Old 02-29-2008, 12:26 AM   #120 (permalink)
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Yup. Like I said...this is pointless. I started it and wish I didn't. All that arguing and nothing is getting accomplished. Nothing will either.
sounds like a request to close to me...

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