I'm not about to do this back and forth-thing with you, but I'll entertain you:
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Originally Posted by webby
skittles - if you have information, provide it. You can think I'm taking sides, or going against you, or whatever you'd like to believe. I've already gone through similar situations with other members and had to do this same thing. So if you think I'm picking on you, so be it. I can't just sit back and let one member tell me that they're being played and let it continue.
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So let me get this straight:
Member still has my springs
after I sent his money order back; a money order I never even looked at, despite sitting next to my tv, until I mailed it back. We've verified Customs has his fourth spring, although it is completely possible Member could've lied about not receiving the fourth spring and could very well have it in his possession as I type this. To top it off, I now have absolutely no leverage what-so-ever in this situation and
HE's the one getting played?
Forgive me for not understanding your logic on this one....
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If you have proof that you purchased the springs from chuck - provide screen shots of your cc statement showing the payment to showstoppers. Get him the tracking # from them. They still say they have nothing on their end from you (showstoppers).
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IF you really have paid, I'd think you'd care enough to find out why they have no record of your order.
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*sigh*
Once again, I never said I paid for the springs. I said the payment was
authorized, meaning the amount was held on the card for the payment PRIOR to that same amount being charged to the card. It's very common for a company to make an authorization on the card before actually charging the card in order to make sure money is available on the card to be charged, otherwise the card comes back declined. Because there was no payment actually charged, there's no payment posted to the account. Authorizations do not show up on credit card statements because...well...again...there is no payment. Only a hold for the payment. Therefore, even if I wanted to show you the authorization on my credit card statement, I couldn't. If the credit card company can send me something that shows the authorization for Showstoppers or at least for Monrovia, CA.
And no, quite honestly, I no longer care enough to find out why the order hasn't shown up, mostly due to the fact that I told my credit card company to reverse the authorization for that $189.00 Friday evening. But at this point, I'm being redundant (which you already know) because I told Member I would no longer accomodate him after he sent me that last email. Apparently, he thought I was just kidding about his poor attitude. Feel free to reassure him, however, that I was very serious about what I said, and that he shouldn't be looking for an order, a tracking number, or a new set of springs because I canceled the authorization. I would've happily called Showstoppers back and gotten him a confirmation number if he'd asked for one, but he didn't. He jumped to conclusions the same way you're alluding to me that
you are jumping to conclusions.
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The same can be said about alljap. You've told me two stories concerning payment to them. One for over 6k, and one for over 9k. They still say they have nothing. The stories you're telling just don't add up. I don't care if you have 2 posts, or 4k posts on the site. I can't sit back idle and just let things take place.
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Your math doesn't add up either. I said the first order was ALMOST $6K. $7900 was the magical number on the second order.....
Do you still not understand why I'm not giving you any information? Based on what you've told me in regards to your conversations with Member, the information you have is obviously VERY skewed and very incorrect, which is why I don't trust you with what I have. You and Member are making mountains out of molehills because you think you know more than you actually do. I can assure you, however, that your confidence in the information being provided to you on the other side is sadly very false and mislead. I will pass my emails with Member along to my attorney and you both are more than welcome to ask him any questions you'd like to confirm everything I just stated...
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I could even mention the whole issue between you and I and the 8thcivic store over a hondata intake gasket that was never purchased. I dug and dug and dug for orders under your name/girlfriends name, various cc#'s that you claimed you purchased under. You told me that you hadn't received the order and wondered when it would be coming, yet you never had even paid. Finally you just kind of sat back and said - well I thought I had ordered it, I guess I'll have to order it tomorrow. You never did order one.
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You are absolutely correct. I did NOT place another order. For three reasons, the first, being none of your business. When I finally went to place another order, the 8thcivic store was down, doing whatever it was you were doing. After the 8thcivic store went down, I came across another product. I found a comparable product for half the price and it had nothing to do with 8thcivic. I don't mind supporting the site, but I'm not going to pay you $65 for a proven product I can get for $26. There are two other members here who can back me up on that. Therefore, your argument here is a dead one. By the way, it was an intake
manifold gasket, not an intake gasket. There is indeed a difference....
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Your attitude in your PMs to me says you don't have anything to back up your side. You've provided me with nothing at all to go on. You can tell me to not be involved, but I am. You'll have to provide information to me regarding his springs/money order/and shipping from showstoppers. Unless you'd like to take back anything and provide new info.
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Your attitude in your PMs to me says you don't have a clue what you're talking about in regards to either situation. You can be as involved as you want, but until I figure out what's going on on my end (it's a lot larger of a situation than you
think you know), I'm still not providing you with anything.
This is my last PM to you regarding either of these situations. I'm not going to keep repeating myself to someone who doesn't listen ($7900 vs. $9000 and payment vs. authorization) and your thinking is futile if you believe I'm going to break or give into you, just to appease you, especially with you threating to ban me. Life doesn't work that way.
I don't work that way. If you still want to know when I have the information I need, then perhaps we can talk. But don't attempt to badger me into giving you what you want. Either respect the decision I've made, or leave me alone altogether. I hope to have more information tomorrow now that one significant part of the puzzle has been solved. This is not me being coy. This is me protecting myself from people who are a little too overzealous. And for the record, two gentlemen I spoke with at two local law enforcement branches, including the Stowe police, have informed me there is little the authorities can do on Member's end since he can't prove I have neither the fourth spring, nor the money order (it hasn't been cashed in my name and I have a copy of the receipt when I sent it back). However, interestingly enough, they DID mention they're quite curious as to why Member is holding onto those springs and both departments, respectively, expressed concern that Member sounds as if he's actually ripping me off. Since you are the mediator, you might want to let Member know that if he wants to play that game, the odds are surprisingly (to him, of course) not stacked in his favor.
Now that we're done playing high-school, I don't want to hear what Member has to say through you. If I need to ask him anything or speak to him, I shall speak to him directly, through email, so that I have a written, saved, personal copy of the information shared. In the meantime, I will work on getting you the information you are looking for in its
complete form. Deal?
-M
02-19-2007, 12:12 PM
lol
. Look up Montee Stowes, and both his and his g/f's name is nonexistant.
