1. Please point me to a post where i said all AJP kits run perfect... if they would all run perfect i won't be on here answering PMs and helping people out in trouble shooting threads.
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Originally Posted by sickyute
be specific about the issues u speak about.
as i am aware .... all issues brought up here have been dealt with either by owners of the kit on here or by ajp/hondata.
again, which issues are u eferring to?
and please tell me how ajp tunes a car.
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Originally Posted by sickyute
1. i had the same reflash as everyone else. i sent my ecu out like everyone else to get it.
2. where did hondata get the data? lol.... like i said ... they came to florida and got all the data themselves. it's the only way i'm aware that they could get the data. no other data was taken off my car from anyone except hondata and its the same for the shop car.
3. why is everyone running on 10 and i was in the 12s... i don't know... it could be a variety of things....even ur location can affect that. take that up with ajp/hondata/ur installer.
what are u trying to get at?
other owners on here seem to be just fine... i wonder what happenned to urs.....  |
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please point me to a post where i said my car ran perfect and without issue... like i said before in previous posts ... certain things can be avoided, like the stalling, and others can't and u just have to deal with it as it comes ... some can and some can't deal with it ...
Please see your above quotes...You certainly inferred that...
3. all those issues mentioned are ........ tune related .... who made the tune? AJP or Hondata? that's not to say hondata did a bad job ... they did what they could at the time ... if AJP told them to do X and they did X ... then that's their business and their reputation at stake ... either way they are 100% responsible for the tune, there is no way AJP can tune the car or even try to tune the car ... if they can't do it and do it right then don't do it at all ... so if ajp is selling a kit with a hondata tune then they are both to blame ... so u can call BS all u want but that's the reality ...
4. honda06si seems to be fine with his kit, so is esx005, streettuned and robert(not on forum) ...
5. every single kit will have minor issues (comptech, ajp, greddy, jackson etc etc) even after it's final tuning ... u'll never never get a forced induction kit to run perfectly 100% of the time ... some people had major issues (BCJ for example) ... it's what u can tolerate and what u can't ...
I have yet to hear of issues this bad with any other kit. Granted, I don't frequent other boards, but I haven't heard anything on thios board about people stalling or having major a/f issues with other kits...
6. please do no compare an aftermarket kit to cars that come with factory kits ... that is 200% apples and oranges ... there is no tune than can be better than a factory tune ... doesn't matter how good the tune is, your car will NEVER work as good as a car with boost from the factory ....
7. 2rotormotor, if all ECU worked the same ... we'd have some sought of management by now ... that is without a doubt ... so i highly doubt that statement that all ECU work the same ..
8. how the hell should idle on a Boosted car be in the 20s?
9. I had to send out my ECU like everyone else ...
a) hondata worked on the shop car from like 9am - 9pm doing the tune.
b) transferred it to my car, did some dynos and made adjustments accordingly
c) when i got the car i did some checks and noticed some things were wrong ... like i couldn't rev past 4000 rpm in neutral ... stock is 5500 i think ... so i had to send the ECU out to get reprogrammed / reflashed with the tune u all had ...
d) blueroadster had the full reflash before i did ...
everyone want's to say "that's why i'll go redshift" ... ever thought to wonder if redshift will have any issue? ever thought well how do they plan to make the tune off of an rsx-s which doesn't have a MAF and transfer it to a car which uses a MAF? that' just a question i've been asking myself cuz it makes sense to me ... but do any of you all ask urselves any questions about the other kits you all want to jump on?
Who said this? Not me! I have 0 faith in Redshift till I see their product in use...
it's the same thing with the AJP kit ... jump on the ship without knowledge of the product ... not ajp or redshift or comptech or whoever but forced induction in general and then have all those philosophies about how it should work and be from what u heard but don't know.
IMO the people who are complaining the most are the people who are least knowledgeable about the subject ... and one can tell by certain remarks made in posts ...
word of advice is to browse around all other boards in their forced induction sections, educate urselves, understand certain issues and then see why some of us can tolerate certain things when others see it as total BS.
are u aware that comptech uses 300 something cc injectors? easy to tune
ajp uses what? 650?? hard to tune ...
injectors themselves alone is a big factor in tuning ... the larger the injectors the harder it is to tune ur vehicle ...
and that's just one aspect of it ...
for christ's sake ... it's not as easy as yall are making it out to be and u can't compare ajp to comptech or comptech to greddy for that reason alone and many more ....
ever wonder why some comptech SC dynos show afr in the 11s, then others show it in the 13s... when under boost? if the tune is soo good why is that? what's causing the fluctuation is AFR in the same kits?
how can one make a reflash to accommodate for 100% of circumstances? especially one related to forced induction?
any more flames to throw my way?
PS: ... i won't be responding to any more posts in this thread ... it's just getting ridiculous ... it's as if people are just searching for things to discredit me when all i've done is be on the board to help as i went through the most crap with all the testing and so on and know what i'm saying ... i don't have an AJP kit no more so why the hell should i even care?
carry on withe the fighting
