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Originally Posted by Chadillac

Would it take that long?

I personally dont think so but that was just a number I threw out there as an example, but I agree with you, I wouldnt be surprised if it happened within 500 to 1,000 years from now if that. I have not doubts and put no limits to the ability of the human race. We only limit ourselves.

If we're willing to consider the possibility of something having always existed like God, why shouldn't we also be willing to consider the possibility of other things having always existed as well such as matter and energy?

You have point but now we are getting into something that we would be able to physically prove and something we believe in. In the time that our civilization has pondered about the stars, universe and god, we have not been able to prove that god exists or even provide any kind of evidence that god exists. Yet we know that matter and energy does exist because we are it and see it every day. The way matter and energy is configured controls who we are and everything else that is in the universe.

It could be that we havent evolved enough yet to detect the presence of a god, but going by what we know now and assume that again in 10,000,000 we never find any proof that god exists or ever existed and we somehow did prove that matter and energy always existed then would it be logical for such an advanced civilization to continue to believe that a god does exist or existed at some time? or that does that mean that god is matter and energy? which would mean that we are all part of the same thing, the same energy the same matter and there is no actual individual being or entity that we should worship, but just worship life and the universe?

It almost seems like the definition of god is being changed and should I say lost as we learn more about ourselves and our universe.

And if life has always existed, couldn't we be 100% statistically sure that some super advanced civilization is out there? The mathematical possibility may be almost infinately small, but with infinite time to work with that possibility will occur.

I am almost sure (how ever much that matters) that there is a civilization out there that is millions of years if not billions of years more advanced than us that we cant even grasp the level of their intelligence. I saw a show a while ago that said that if there is a civilization that is millions of years more intelligent and evolved than us than it is possible that if they try to teach us what they know would be like us trying to teach our dogs how to do Calculus or even Algebra.