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^^...? didnt even get that one lol nice try but ok lol the point of my line was to say the springs make it look so good, you will not want it any higher even if it does mean better handling....and lowering springs are suspension bro..they DO improve handling over stock; havent you seen Tein products for example S techs and how they say improved handling and a great way to improve your suspension!(its not an entire suspension kit, but part of it so it is considered a suspension upgrade, so to say their just called lowering springs instead of suspenion is wrong) If u have heard they make ur handling worse and that they are not part of suspension then you have been informed incorrectly..they do lower your car but that is not the whole point of them, and like someone said if someone wants to just lower their car without money, they would cut stock springs(which is bad)...and once again its not like I don't know what Im saying, this is what I have learned and read/studied over time...only reason I made this thread was to see what people think about their HFP suspension and to see how I can respond to their replies
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