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Old 06-16-2008, 03:33 AM   #43 (permalink)
ciprich211
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Originally Posted by portabuddy View Post
lol im looking into this too...one thing i have up on this is a high pressure SS tank that i will charge, instead of plates. im looking into useing a neon generator as a power source. as the more voltage given means more bubbles will be created not amps.
Dude your not looking for voltage. And why would you use a generator, when you already have a battery? You should reeaaallllyyyy get on the yahoo forum that I posted several times and read up for several weeks before trying something, so you do not have a fire in your car. You dont want the voltage going across your electrolyser to be anymore than 1.24 volts. I had a thread that explained in detail, but I lost it. Anyways, the amount of gas produced depends on the amperage flowing across the plates, not the voltage.

Think of it this way. Here are some facts:
Electrolysis is a chemical reaction.
Voltage is a measurement of electromotive force ( pressure )
Current is how many electrons are flowing over a point in the curcuit ( 1 Coulomb of electrons flowing past a point in one second )

You want more current because the electrons are the actual mechanism generating the chemical reaction, which generates the gas. All voltage is, is the force that is pushing the current though. If you have more than 1.24 volts through cell, the rest of the voltage is lost generating heat. You dont want to have the water in your cell boiling. That is a BAD thing.

"If the voltage applied to the electrolyte is 1.24 volts, then the gas
production for straight electrolysis depends directly on the current, which in
turn, depends on the concentration of the electrolyte. Two points: if you are
using stainless steel electrodes, then there is a voltage drop across them which
makes the optimum voltage across the electrodes to be about 2 volts, and, there
is a better system than electrolysis where a pulsed waveform is applied to the
electrodes rather than just DC. Done properly, this can give ten times the gas
output."


"With straight DC electrolysis, you can adjust the gas production rate by
controlling the current. This can be done using a Pulse-Width Modulator circuit
board. Alternatively, you can leave the electrolysis on full-rate production
and switch it off when necessary by using a gas-pressure switch to disconnect
the electric supply to the electrolyzer."



" There are two main types of electrolyzer. The most efficient is Bob Boyce's
design which uses flat plates positioned very accurately in the housing. A very
different design uses pairs of pipe electrodes. You can see both types in
detail if you download http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf which has
a very large amount of electrolysis information in it."
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