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Originally Posted by ryker
Your math is way to simple to prove anything. The numbers you show has the much higher advantage of peak power to weight Odessey only .2 Quicker in the one selected source and you ignore the other source that has the Civic R18 as quicker despite your simple math.
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Originally Posted by habitat
7.92 is pretty good for a 15k car.
But when I used the Odyssey for comparison, I pitted it against an Automatic Civic EX which looks more like this...
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Above was my response to trickyazn's quicker Civic 0-60 time of just under 8 seconds. I could not find the exact article he was referring to, but I did discover that cars.com based it's review on the Civic EX w/ std 5spd manual transmission as I had originally suspected.
I hope I don't have to tell you that it is obvious a 5spd manual equipped Civic will most definitely beat an Odyssey.
What you seem to ignore is that although I'm lazy to use such a basic weight/power equation, I've proven my point by providing results from real road tests as my source. You on the other hand, still just post formulae without plugging in the variables. So ask yourself this, what is your argument with me?
If it's: habitat, you are lazy and your basic weight/power formula does not tell the complete story, then I agree with you.
If it's: habitat, my equations have been proven by Newton himself and will be more accurate in a more comprehensive test that includes a road course with turns to complement the R18s "flat" torque curve, then I agree with you.
If it's: habitat, my equations are the w1nn4r b/c yours are n00b and edmund's reviewers are t43 h4x0r, then you're being ignorant.
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Originally Posted by ryker
What that is telling you is that your gears act as multipliers of engine torque and you need a nice flat torque band without any dips in power. What determines how fast you can accelerate is the amount of torque that reaches your rear wheel and that is determined by your gear ratios.
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Again, I'm not arguing against your logic, what you're saying makes perfect sense. But you still argue that the R18 5A will beat an Odyssey in a straight line... why?