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Old 03-04-2008, 05:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Just got off the phone with Doug from Hondata...

I own a K24 and Brian Crower stage 2 cams. He said because our cars have a MAF sensor... it accepts changes in air flow well.. it will run correct Air fuel ratios ONLY IF YOU USE THE ORIGINAL INTAKE PIPING. He also said Hondata has tested with the TSX cams in our cars, and the 06+ TSX camshafts are a Type R high cam on the intake with the 04 tsx small lobe on the intake.. and the Exhaust has been unchange.. they are LARGER then any other Type-R cam.. Most of us know this..

He hasnt tested any other aftermarket camshafts but said they POSSIBLY could work as long as there is no valve/piston Valve/Valve clearence problems.

also.. our cars with a reflash.. can run a K24 engine with good air fuels.. People say they lean out uptop... but he assured me the Air fuel because we have a MAF isnt the problem.. its the fact that the K24 is not mechanically designed to spin to 8,000+ that it will blow up.. ITS NOT HOW... its WHEN it will.



and With hessitation.. he wouldnt say when.. but did say it will be sometime this year.. hopefully, He assured me they know how desperate people are to get tuning products. Its not that they arent working hard to get the product to us. Its getting a product that is 100% functional to us that is importiant.

So in short..:

1)OUR CARS ARE MEANT TO RUN WITH THE STOCK INTAKE PIPING!!!!!

2)we can use aftermarket cams.. but dont go crazy.

3)K24s work.. and dont run lean.. but dont rev it over what hondata raises the rev limiter to on a K24a2 TSX.

4)It will be here soon.. CHILL OUT PEOPLE..

(I still got Greddy Emanage Ultimate and VManage.. but I will 100% change back to the original intake piping..)




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Originally Posted by Hondata View Post
Ok, we know the members this forum are fairly rabid Civic enthusiasts, but some corrections are necessary. (We should know better by now than to try and offer helpful suggestions 8-; )

The comments were made about one particular K24 setup in which intake headers, K24 and emanage were all simultaneously installed.

My suggestion was not to do everything at once. Start with the stock intake and K24. Dyno and measure the air fuel. Then swap to the aftermarket intake. It should measure the same as stock.

The air fuel ratio is determined by the airflow and pipe sizing around the MAF. There is a variation in aftermarket intakes. A well designed intake will keep the stock air fuel ratio and make more power.

A little more information.

We are working on a programmable system for the Civic.

1) It is our TOP priority. We have purchased two Civics for this reason.
2) It will not be called K-Pro

We know from the volume of email and phone calls the level of interest. More calls however, cannot make the development proceed at a faster rate, so please be patient.

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