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Old 02-27-2008, 12:58 PM   #218 (permalink)
Si Speed 317
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Originally Posted by mattsbobo View Post
Si Speed, thanks for adding so much to this thread. I like the fact that the S2K, and RSX intakes use cone filters, but that's about the only thing. I just don't see how they would fit our needs, and might actually complicate the situation by giving us new problems like trying to figure out fitment issues.

I haven't looked at my stock airbox in a long time becuse it's under a bunch of crap in my storage closet, but I think using our stock box makes our design a lot easier. It's got the lower opening (the one that connects to the resinator) in case we want to run something like this: Weapon*R Racing Development...to the front bumper.

Ideally, I love Bill's idea about the cowl induction because there's a ton of air to catch there, and it's got a shorter distance to travel versus running a tube to the front bumper (even though I think this route would be the easiest solution for us). I do worry about a lot of rain water being sucked directly in through the cowl induction method, not to say the bumper method would suck up less, but I think that less water would actually reach the filter area this way.

Maybe modify the stock airbox with the "Poor Man's Icebox DIY", use bigger CRV tube to the throttle body, run the Weapon R Ram Air tube to the bumper...then all we have to do is figure out how to get a cone filter to work inside the box.

After all that, I've got a stupid newb question. Why does it have to be a cone filter?
I agree using stock box is better, but my mistake in not specifying is that I posted that up for info, but I figured the s2k cone filter can fit INSIDE the Si box when gutted out like I have mine. As for the Cowl Induction, I agree it is the best way, but as you said water is a big priority and don't forget gravity, with the cowl induction the water can go down into the intake, with the bumper intercooler area it's less likely to get up into the filter area as you said which is gravity doing it's part.
My stock airbox is the Poor Man's Ice Box, so all I need is an s2k filter to see if it fits in, which I think it should. As for the question, it's not newb, my understanding is that conical filters have more of a volume of air to suck in as a higher rate. A'PEXi uses an interior cone design with helps air flow straight and not bounce around.

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Originally Posted by Excalibur View Post
Exactly what I was thinking by saying that it would be like the j's racing one. Good job. I don't think the crv tube fits with the stock airbox though, so we would have to figure out a different sealed box for that. Thanks for the illustration.
Thanks for the compliment! The CRV tube does infact fit with the stock airbox. I'm having one shipped to my house, should be here in a few days. I'll have many pictures etc. in a couple days.

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Originally Posted by NitrousG35 View Post
Dan, I live in the frozen wasteland of Minnesota. Getting an airbox and beginning to analyze it is the first step. I know there have been a number of people with similar ideas. Great minds think alike as they say. Anyway, the best way for us to advance is to propose ideas, especially photographs or drawings, so that we can visualize things better.
Right, btw I hope you feel better I just read that you're really sick. As for the airbox, I'm going to play around with the gutted and fiberglassed one I have, something can be done I know it, and ALSO you can mod the vanes like mine has to be more like the X intake. I'll start taking pictures once I have the CRV tube and my hands on an s2k filter.

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Ketch, do us a favor. Can you take a tape measurer and get the length and height of the S2000 airbox? Also, do you know how big the cone filter is and how it would compare to say, an Apexi?
The s2k airbox shouldn't be put in our engine bays, is it an idea and might be able to be done but it's huge. I was thinking a component or two to add into ours maybe, but don't forget that there's no MAF, at least not from what I saw.

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I just emailed this company to see if they could help us out and make something for our car. I'll keep everyone posted on what they say. I told them that it needs to be something like the icebox was. They make carbon fiber intake systems btw.

Mishimoto Automotive Performance - Aluminum Radiators, Cooling Products, Carbon Fiber Intakes and accessories
Awesome, once we get more illustrations/pics, we can send it there and have it done there!
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