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Old 02-27-2008, 12:07 AM   #191 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by NitrousG35 View Post
This is a well thought out idea. The key is to access high pressure areas, which are natural conduits for the air to be rammed into the intake. You are definitely on the right track.

As for the comparo between the Camaro and the Si, you might be right that it could be greater on the Camaro than on the Si. However, if you look at NASCAR stock cars, they all use cowl induction to pull air into their intakes, and you might notice that they have pretty steeply raked windshields too.

Without being able to get aero numbers on the Si and pressure readings, it is only speculation. To me, the shortest route would still be to access the cowl area.

The biggest stumbling block for all of us whether accessing the lower bumper intake or the cowl area is an air induction box that would enshroud a conical filter. What we need to do is to take measurements of an Apexi filter like X is using and then go and find an existing airbox from another car. Someone mentioned that an Integra GSR from 1994-1998 has a box that will accomodate a conical filter.

Once we find a suitable air induction box, then we just need to plumb it with tubing, either to the cowl or to the lower bumper.

I know that if we put our collective heads together, we can come up with something. The reason companies have not produced something like this is because it is much easier to sell a filter on a stick than to engineer something that really works. My only regret is that we can't get a group of us together to hammer something out together.
Thank you for the compliment. I've ran this through my head in the past, but it didn't seem right, but here we are! Yes definitely the high pressure areas are most important. The way I did it would be MUCH easier for an R18.

Moving to NASCAR, they're right as well, but I'm taking into account that many of us live in places with weather conditions such as rain and snow and I know I would hate changing it out I agree the shortest route is the cowl area. But as you said the most important part is figuring out a sealed box with a conical filter such as A'PEXi or maybe one of those flatter cone filters someone posted a link of earlier in the thread. So we might come about 2 different ways to achieve the same thing, when it comes to piping.

I'm down for looking for a box that would fit a conical filter. I can check my friends integra, but also what about the S2k airbox or the RSX? They both use conical filters I believe.

And I wish we could all meet up and figure it out. I'll try as much out as I can. I have a stock airbox in my room that is gutted and fiberglassed on the inside, I just need to figure out a way to get this all to come together.

JUST got an idea, I remember seeing a few things online about filters, so here are some I think might work somehow:

^ That Probably won't, but why not bring it up?

I think something like this can work:

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