I haven't been on this site in awhile. i been pretty busy with school. n when i came back i saw this thread still goin on, i wuz like huh? Now i know i posted this thread up saying 140 horses isn't enough, buh yeah i took a lot of your guys' advice and actually did them. i jus turned in three applications to various places in my town so i can start savin money to get some serious mods. yes i am just waiting until september (hiring season) for any of them to call me back. I also took the advice of someone else on here that said of racing tc's and vans, just race slower cars and haha yup! I started racing cars that i knew had lower horses than my civic, so that boosted my ego pretty good. But also i wanna say sorry for posting such degrading thread about the econobox. i know that it even has more horsepower than the older civics, but i was just so used to my old car. All in all, u guys helped me a lot. I'll be sure to post a thread up for my any new mods!