8th Generation Honda Civic Forum - View Single Post - thoughts-first oil change, mtf change

darkdan · 08-23-2007, 06:42 PM

I've been an AMSOIL dealer for I think 6 years now. Something like that.

My advice to anyone wanting to switch to AMSOIL and is under warranty is this.

#1 Keep a log of oil changes. Write it in the owners manual if need be.
#2 Keep receipts to prove that's what you used
#3 DO NOT EXCEED THE LONGEST FACTORY RECOMMENDED DRAIN INTERVAL

Now I have no doubt in my mind that AMSOIL can easily do the 15k mile intervals in most cars. With bypass filters they can easily do the 25k mile intervals. I've seen plenty of used oil analysis results to confirm it.

However, if you are under warranty your first and most important job is to keep your warranty intact and give them no reason to try to void it.

Let me break it down like a fraction for you.

You're driving along, all of a sudden, BAM! Your camshaft snaps in half.

Now, if you've never ran extended intervals, Honda fixes, no problem. Life's okay.

The flip side of that coin. You've been running extended drains, the dealer knows this from your log or asks you, etc. Suddenly, they're denying the claim and blaming the oil. Well, it wasn't the oil's fault. So you call AMSOIL (or Mobil1 now....they have a warranty too) and obviously AMSOIL says, "Sounds like a bad casting to us..." and denies your claim.

Suddenly, you're buying parts on your own.

After the warranty? Run 10k to 12k intervals, or 15k if you do a used oil analysis once in a while.

Also, leave the factory oil in the vehicle until your first scheduled oil change. No need to drain that stuff out early. Last I knew (and I'd have to check on it since it's been 3 or 4 years) Honda used a special "break-in" oil at the factory. It was loaded with moly.

Just friendly advice.

For my Ford boards I always recommend people using Motorcraft 5w20 and Motorcraft filters until the warranty is up. I've lost plenty of sales because of it, but I sleep well at night.

08-23-2007, 06:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
darkdan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Owatonna, MN Posts: 1,364 Dan	I've been an AMSOIL dealer for I think 6 years now. Something like that. My advice to anyone wanting to switch to AMSOIL and is under warranty is this. #1 Keep a log of oil changes. Write it in the owners manual if need be. #2 Keep receipts to prove that's what you used #3 DO NOT EXCEED THE LONGEST FACTORY RECOMMENDED DRAIN INTERVAL Now I have no doubt in my mind that AMSOIL can easily do the 15k mile intervals in most cars. With bypass filters they can easily do the 25k mile intervals. I've seen plenty of used oil analysis results to confirm it. However, if you are under warranty your first and most important job is to keep your warranty intact and give them no reason to try to void it. Let me break it down like a fraction for you. You're driving along, all of a sudden, BAM! Your camshaft snaps in half. Now, if you've never ran extended intervals, Honda fixes, no problem. Life's okay. The flip side of that coin. You've been running extended drains, the dealer knows this from your log or asks you, etc. Suddenly, they're denying the claim and blaming the oil. Well, it wasn't the oil's fault. So you call AMSOIL (or Mobil1 now....they have a warranty too) and obviously AMSOIL says, "Sounds like a bad casting to us..." and denies your claim. Suddenly, you're buying parts on your own. After the warranty? Run 10k to 12k intervals, or 15k if you do a used oil analysis once in a while. Also, leave the factory oil in the vehicle until your first scheduled oil change. No need to drain that stuff out early. Last I knew (and I'd have to check on it since it's been 3 or 4 years) Honda used a special "break-in" oil at the factory. It was loaded with moly. Just friendly advice. For my Ford boards I always recommend people using Motorcraft 5w20 and Motorcraft filters until the warranty is up. I've lost plenty of sales because of it, but I sleep well at night.