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Old 07-22-2007, 03:13 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by TJ213
torque = Nascars
hp + revs = F1 Cars


F1 cars are faster, HP > TQ, end of story


IMO the reason that the Si, and many other Hondas, don't have torque is that tq usually requires more displacement, which usually means lower fuel economy, and a lower redline.

S/C are another option, but Honda doesn't like that either

btw, In japan there is a tax increase for motors over 2.0l, which may be a reason why Honda likes 2.0l I4s so much

An F1 car is 2150 lbs lighter than a Cup car is. That is why an F1 car accelerates faster than a cup car. They both produce about 800 hp. An F1 car does it at 19000 rpm where a Cup car does it at 9000 rpm. With that said, and F1 car is making 221 lbs/ft of tq at 19000 rpm and a cup car makes 466 lbs/ft of tq at 9000 rpm. 466 lbs/ft of tq isn't that much when you consider that a Ford F-350 make 500+ lbs/ft of tq.


Honda uses the "less torque over more rpm" philosphy in order to make their cars go fast. This has been known about honda for decades. If you wanted torque, why did you by a honda for performance (Si)? You should have gotten a Cobalt SS/Redline or a Mini Cooper S or a MS3 or a SRT-4 or WRX or even a Mustang GT all of which are in the same pice range as an Si.

When i got in my Si after my GSR, the first thing i though was, man, this Si really has a lot more low end torque than my old GSR did.

Honda built our engines to rev so wind that ***** up and watch her fly.
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